Monday, July 4, 2016

Living Church of God: Are Twiggy Doctrines Messing With The Minds of LCG Members?

Twiggy seems to be messing with LCG doctrines.



Doug Winnail writes:

Truly focused Christians don’t have time to get sidetracked on material pursuits, private agenda or twiggy doctrinal ideas (2 Timothy 2:14-18). They don’t let interpersonal differences hinder their spiritual growth (Romans 12:14-18) or their goal of developing the mind of Christ (Philippians 2:5-11). Real Christians focus on what is good and positive and right and true - they don’t listen to rumors and they don’t dwell on complaints (Philippians 4:8). June 30

In other words Dear Brethren...don't concern yourself with the Scarborough's suing the church or the fact that they subpoenaed over 200 of us, that's not important.  Nor are all those pesky twiggy doctrines floating around that James Malm and Bob Thiel keep declaring need to be kept.

As usual, the entire reason for the posting was the fact that all the problems in LCG are the result of members sticking their noses into things that don't concern them.  The hierarchy of the LCG is not accountable to the membership.

Dingy Wade Cox and Tim Kitchen Believe McDonalds Is Using Baby Meat




The Church of God has always been fertile ground for the lunatic fringe to promote their pet conspiracy theories.  People naively believe all of the conspiracies because everything is a Jesuit, Masonic, Bilderberger or Illuminati conspiracy to take over the world.  This is Satan's plan after all, isn't it? So its no wonder that the space cadet's in the church invent scary scenarios or outlandish claims and promote them as truth  There is always a COG true believer out there that will fall for their baloney.

Both of these theologically bankrupt men are apparently not smart enough to know that the original story that started this entire chain of lies was a story posted on Huzlers, a site that allows users to "create your own news prank and trick your friends by sharing it."

But I guess its too much trouble to do a three minute search of the Internet and discover the back story.  Much like these men can't use the Internet to discover the back story of Armstrongism. Instead they both choose to perpetuate lies and unfortunately there are still dumb people out there that believe them.

Sunday, July 3, 2016

The Battling Church of God Archives Sites



Ever since the Worldwide Church of God imploded into hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups, there has been one failed attempt after another to "get back on track." There are the groups and web sites that claim to only follow those church teachings prior to 1986. There are others that claim the truth only exists prior to 1974.  Others harken back to the time before Loma Armstrong's death in 1967.  It was all a conspiracy of the liberals and Satan to thwart God from getting his message across to the true believers. Satan has always proven to be more powerful than God, at least in the COG realm.

Now that Satan succeeded and the church has become irrelevant in the eyes of the world and most church members, there are those that still struggle to preserve the "truth once restored." Just like the hundreds and hundreds of splinter COG's out there claiming they are the only true church, now we have battling Herbert Armstrong archive sites.  One of them has come out swinging, damning all the others as liberal tools of Satan.

The heretical sites are

The HWA Library:



















The Biblical Truth site:


Now we have the ONLY TRUE COG archive site:





The HWA TV Archives claims it is the ONLY true archives on the Internet today that harkens back to the time before the liberals and Satan took over.  They cover everything prior to 1967.

"Booklets that BUILT the Work during the 1950s and up to about 1967, which were either "killed," or, like the U.S. in Prophecy booklet, greatly reduced and the LIFE cut out of it - during a conspiracy to abolish everything I had ever written and substitute new LIBERAL doctrines following the "STP" [Systematic Theology Project] - all those booklets are being brought back into print. The TRUTH of God, not a watered-down liberal and secular teaching, is once again going out IN POWER! "
During the years between 1967 and 1977, Satan the Devil was hard at work using Garner Ted Armstrong, and other liberal ministers to SUPPRESS, destroy, or replace Christ's true doctrines as they were taught by Christ's chosen apostle Herbert W Armstrong. It was because they DID NOT BELIEVE. They were essentially, NON-BELIEVERS! And do you realize that Satan works through NON-BELIEF?
Have you considered HOW Satan was effective? And have you considered how he got the job done?
And concerning our responsibility, when presenting the materials of God's apostle and God's Church: Should we promote materials that were published by Garner Ted and by other LIBERAL ministers that Satan has been using against God's true Church?
We've considered the materials published in the years between 1967 and 1977 for historical evidence, and proof of what happened, how Satan took the Church off track.
There are some very good articles found during those years, but what we are finding is that they always contained a liberal element that just spoiled it. The rottenness was evident.

The Archives crew thinks that it took the literal resurrection of Herbert Armstrong to clean the church up and set it all back on track.


And so we have asked ourselves, and have taken it to God in prayer and fasting, about whether or not we should promote material from GTA and other LIBERAL ministers, and it has been ASTOUNDING NO! 
Jesus Christ upon resurrecting Herbert W Armstrong from total heart failure in 1977. began throwing out the dross and those attached who wouldn't allow Christ to clean them up. He guided Herbert Armstrong to go back and update all of the books that Satan was trying to get rid of, and with it Christ added new revelation, and much more TRUTH was restored during this time. The Bible says "All things shall be restored" through the end time Elijah. 
So whatever confusion Satan had caused in the 1970's, through GTA and the LIBERAL ministers, was cleaned up, and Christ's understanding, mind and Christ's doctrines once again was in the forefront in God's true Church! It was placed back on the tracks! 
Now there is only one true archive site and has the ONLY truth!  All of the others are run by apostate liberal Satan loving false Christians.


THIS WEBSITE( wwcg-archives.com) IS THE ONLY WEBSITE THAT DIRECTS YOU TO CHRIST THROUGH HIS CHOSEN APOSTLE.  
Other websites, direct you to splinter groups, dissenters, groups that are in DISAGREEMENT with Christ and His chosen apostle. If you check, you will find this to be absolutely true. 
One website, has incorporated itself, and directs people to fellowship with them online. They promote Garner Ted Armstrong, and those liberal elements of the 1970's that took the Church of track. And they rob God of His tithes by collecting them from sincere people, although they are not ordained to collect such. They are not ministers. Now some others are ministers, but not of Christ. Christ is not blind to any of it brethren.
Just as the hundreds of splinter groups cant get along, now the internet sites are fighting over who has the true booklets and articles now.

The entire legacy of Herbert Armstrong has become one complete farce. From abusive tyrants like Meredith, Pack and Flurry, the self-appointed false prophets, Judaizers and liars like Thiel and Malm, to the pseudo-liberals in UCG. The Wienlands, the Flurry's and Pack are impotent little men who will never garner any large followings.  Meredith has proven to be an abusive tyrant and abject failure in everything he has touched.

Its a complete mess.

It will never be unified again.

No apostle or prophet is coming in to save it.

No two witnesses will arise from it.

It will never be great again.








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Convert or Kill the "Infidels"

Iraq violence: IS bombing kills 125 Ramadan shoppers in Baghdad



Submitted by Homer:  Sunday July 3, 2016 – 7:30 AM CDT

Just saw in the news of another bombing where nearly 100 people were killed and nearly 200 injured by ISIS in Bagdad. There was a post on Facebook Friday which discussed a possibility as to why certain Muslim groups feel it is necessary to convert or kill “infidels” or unbelievers of Islam or other Muslims who do not accept their interpretation of the Qur’an. Below is that facebook post.

When anyone makes a post on FB, there is a question in the box which asks, “What’s on your mind?” The following has been on my mind for sometime but may not be received well by some folks. However, it is something I have considered for several years. Since September 11, 2001 thoughts have entered my mind about why radical Islamic terrorists would want to conquer the world. Where did Mohammed get the idea that all people on earth should convert to Islam and kill all infidels / unbelievers? Several months ago, I told my sister and brother-in-law my reasoning and a possible answer to that question.
Back in the latter 70’s I took several courses at a local community college in North Carolina where I lived; courses such as “Religion in Modern Society” - “Old Testament” – “New Testament” and “Religions of the World” along with other courses such as trigonometry, psychology, golf, etc. One of the final requirements of each course concerning religion was to write a summary about the course and what was learned. Those papers were kept through the years and were found in a box a few weeks ago. Written in one of those papers was found a possible answer to the question above concerning Mohammed and Islam. Below are four excerpts of what was written nearly 40 years ago, the details of which I had not remembered until those papers were found.
  1. Mohammed was born and raised in the city of Mecca. . . . a prosperous trade center & peoples of many different customs & traditions . . . . It was also the site of many of the pagan Arab tribes [&] shrines. [Mohammed] had the opportunity to observe . . . religious practices of the pagans as well as the Jews and Christians. He came to dislike the idol worship of the Arabs and [developed] a great admiration for the one God concept of the Jews and Christians.
  2. Mohammed insisted that he was not divine – but just a prophet or spokesman for the one God, Allah.
  3. The merchants of Mecca were outraged at [Mohammed’s teaching]. . . . it began to hurt the trade because Mohammed spoke against idol worship & paganism. All the while promoting Allah. [Similar reaction to Paul by Demetrius and the silversmiths as outlined in Acts 19:23-28.]
  4. . . . Mohammed became not only a religious leader but also a great political leader. He was a firm but fair leader, with a proper combination of justice and mercy

Note: The word Allah is very similar to the Hebrew word, אלהּ, transliterated to English as Eloah, the singular form of what we call God; the plural form being אלהים, transliterated as Elohim, the Hebrew word used the vast majority of the time for the term God in the Old Testament (OT). Since there are no vowels in Hebrew as in English, vowel sounds may become subject to cultural tradition, language enunciation and spelling such as the Islamic name Yusef, the Hebrew name Yosef and the English name Joseph. Could Mohammed have used the writings of the OT to base his teaching?
 [As an interesting comparison about Yusef in the Qur’an and Yosef in the OT, check out the following link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_in_Islam ] However, what about all the killings by radical Islamic terrorists? Where and how did they get this idea? I have been asked the following question many times through the years by my two sons, ‘How and/or why does a supposed loving God condemn so many people to death because they don’t understand the way of God?’ I had, for many years, difficulty in answering this question. I would generally respond with something like, ‘I don’t know, but God will handle it.’ Could there be more to this dilemma than is apparent by reading the Bible as a literal, historical book. There are many killings recorded in the OT. Generally, these killings are caused by “God” or by those instructed by “God” to kill the “heathen” men, women, children and their animals. Is it possible that the words which are read by many have a meaning other than literal? Could these acts of death have a more personal, allegorical meaning other than the literal killing of people? [BTW, “heathen” is not necessarily bad. It simply means a nation or group of folk different than one’s own.] It is written that Jesus spoke in parables and said in Luke 8:10, To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest in parables, that seeing they might not see, and hearing, they might not understand.”  Note: the phrase “might not” is used rather than the phrase, will not; there is a big difference. Also, Luke 8:10 is a general quote from Isaiah 6:9 in the OT.
 It is also written that “parables” and “dark sayings” are used in the OT.  Could it be that those “dark sayings” are written for us to consider with a possible hidden meaning? (“dark sayings” means difficult to understand, not evil sayings) Is it possible that all the killings in the OT is allegory and meant for us as individuals to “kill” or eliminate the wrong thoughts and actions we have which are contrary to the way of our creator, the source of all that exists? This possibility may be something to consider. If Mohammed used the OT as a base for his Qur’an, (which I am suggesting) did he take the writings of the OT as literal, or did he understand an allegorical meaning? Or - do his followers take Mohammed’s writings as literal, the way most people understand the OT, without considering a possible allegorical (hidden?) meaning. Personally, I don’t know about Mohammed’s thoughts. It is extremely apparent what his radical, literal thinking, followers think.
 By happenstance I came across the following two part video (in one link) and was viewed for the first time shortly after the vast majority of the comments above were written. (The information about the name Yusef, Yoseph & Joseph was added.) Some of the comments, by both participants, may be worthy of consideration while others, maybe not so much. However, it was found to be a most interesting discussion before an audience, between Richard Dawkins and a Muslim journalist. Based on the accents of each and the audience, the discussion probably took place in England and was published on Jun 21, 2016.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0jA6VsivBE
 
One additional consideration to the above post. The New Testament is generally a book of how to live a life of peace and harmony. Did Mohammed realize this as well and separate the Qur'an in two parts similar to the Bible? If so, that might explain the difference between what is considered, by some Muslems, a Qur'an of peace and harmony while others consider it a book of absolute conversion to Islam or suffer the consequences. I admit this is conjecture on my part on this point.